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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 10:45 pm
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Can you identify these birds? I learned a lot about them the other day while filling our fish ponds at Selfridge ANGB.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 10:57 pm
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They are Mute Swans.  They are an invasive species and they are being controlled.  They are being sniped by a designated marksman at SANG.

I learned alot about them filling the ponds at SANG later that night too. ;)

 

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They are Mute Swans. A officer from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service was shooting them off of Selfridge Air National Guard Base.  Of all things, he was shooting them off shore with a silenced 243 bolt action rifle. And the guy was a really good shot.
 I asked him what he was going to do with them and if he had an extra breast. He told me he will take them in and they will do a necropsy on them. They will study them to see if they are healthy and what they are eating.
 He told me that these things eat the same thing that carp eat and I would not want to eat them.
 The bigger one, a male, weighed I would guess 20# to 25#.  Big birds though.
I still think they would make good table fare.
 The trumpeter swans that are native here went on the endangered list because of market hunting.
 The mute swans were brought here a couple of hundred years ago from Europe.
 They were the whitest birds that I have ever seen. Pure white.
 You can tell a mute swan by the orange beak. The trumpeter swans have a black beak.
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fish eater wrote:

I learned alot about them filling the ponds at SANG later that night too. ;)

 

But I got to see it. It was interesting to say the least.
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That's got to be the first time I saw a Moose with two schwantzes.



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Interesting....so why were they brought here in the first place ?just wondering?



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I love those birds! How could some one just shoot them. They could be so nice with wild rice,gravy and a tall beer.

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chumpchangechar wrote: Interesting....so why were they brought here in the first place ?just wondering?
I did a google search and found many references to check out. It seems they were brought over in the 1800s because people liked the way they looked. From Wikipedia:


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The Mute Swan was introduced to the United States in the late 19th century, primarily for its ornamental value. Recently, it has been widely viewed as an invasive species because of its rapidly increasing numbers and impacts on other waterfowl and native ecosystems. For example, a study of population sizes in the lower Great Lakes from 1971 to 2000 found that Mute Swan numbers were increasing at an average rate of at least 10% per year, doubling the population every seven to eight years.[24] Several studies have concluded that Mute Swans severely reduce densities of submerged vegetation where they occur.[25]

In 2003, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposed to "minimize environmental damages attributed to mute swans" by reducing their numbers in the Atlantic Flyway to pre-1986 levels, a 67% reduction at the time. According to the 2003 Federal Register[26] the proposal was supported by all thirteen state wildlife agencies which submitted comments as well as by 43 bird conservation, wildlife conservation and wildlife management organisations. Ten animal rights organisations and the vast majority of comments from individuals were opposed. At this time Mute Swans were protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act due to a court order, but in 2005 the United States Department of the Interior officially declared them a non-native, unprotected species.[22] Mute Swans are protected in some areas of the U.S. by local laws, as for example in Connecticut.[27]








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thanks thats interesting.



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isnt that highly illeagle to kill thoes things?



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walleyeEnzo wrote: isnt that highly illeagle to kill thoes things?Read the messages from Dave and  Scott about who was shooting and why. You will find out that the birds are an invasive specie and that the shooters were federal agents with the US Fish and Wildlife Service and that they were on federal property.



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